Monday, October 13, 2008

Richie Hawtin / Gaiser @ Tripod 14/11/2008

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Posted by Ed at 6:16 AM
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  1. FergOctober 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM

    Yom yom yom yom, big night out!! Will report back with a sneak preview from M_nus 10th birthday in London this Saturday. Should be a collosal night. Watch this space for a really good article about a shift in tastes in the minimal world, things getting a lot deeper (in the Berghain style), and a bit funkier. It'll be posted in the next few days.

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  2. AnonymousOctober 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM

    wowsers!!delighted about hawtin. Ed even from far far away your telling us amazing stories!!

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  3. EdOctober 14, 2008 at 12:05 AM

    Glad to be the bearer of good news Rois!

    Are you heading to the SEone gig Ferg? I'm well jealous if you are. Make contakt with the cube!

    I was planning a similar article so I might put up a part II once yours is up. Very interesting debates about it at the moment. The Guardian article was way off imho.

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  4. FergOctober 15, 2008 at 12:02 PM

    Ed, I am indeed going to SE1, and have full intentions ofo getting up close and personal with the Cube!!!

    As for the Guardian article (how did you know I was referring to the Guardian article?!!), I think they may be overstating things, but I definitely think they are onto something. Deep seems to be more in than the clickity click stuff of the next few years. The Steffi RA is a good example. If you think back to any of the shifts in taste since we were teenagers, no genre has ever really survived more than two summers as the dominant one. I think Minimal in its strict guise has definitely run its course. That's not to say huge loud stomping maximal electro sounds will be the order of the day, but rather that some new evolution of the minimal style will appear; this could well this deeper housey style, with nods to funk and soul. Although I doubt we will see that from the likes of Magda and Hawtin this Saturday!!! I'll report back!!

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  5. FergOctober 15, 2008 at 12:04 PM

    "Deep seems to be more in than the clickity click stuff of the next few years."

    That should of course read "of the LAST few years"

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  6. EdOctober 15, 2008 at 3:30 PM

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  7. EdOctober 15, 2008 at 3:33 PM

    Ferg, I completely agree with you that the sound is moving on, as it should, of course. Evolution is a very healthy thing. The evolved sound is built on the skeleton of what is now considered as dead. My problem with The Guardian article was that it was trying to be too sensationalist. The headline, "The Strange, Lingering Death of Minimal Techno" is complete rubbish. I do agree with what the author is saying to a large extent, things were getting a bit bland and repetitive, it just seems that an article under the headline "The Evolution of House/Techno" would have been much more appropriate.

    I think it's great that minimal is out of fashion, it means it can move back to being an underground sound and not be dictated by those following a trend or money. From my perspective the more tradition striped sound is returning if anything, now that all the cash-in merchants have moved onto dubstep or whatever is 'in' at the moment) the innovators are progressing the original concept with new influences, directions and sources.
    I, for one, have begun to get very excited again by techno and house sounds. Steffi's podcast along with Chymera's effort for Bodytonic have been on repeat at my end for the past while. I fully agree that it goes in cycles and tastes change in line with a huge number of influences.

    On a related point, I have always been uncomfortable with the label 'minimal' to begin with. (I have a general dislike of the categorisation of music in any case.) This discomfort related to the use of the term for such a wide variety of music. Be it house or techno, yes you could say that a track was minimal, but I preferred to use the word as a descriptive term rather than as a label/genre. There were always(from reputable producers at least) percussive, progressive, ambient etc. elements/influences in the mix in most tracks which made it impossible (for me at least) to say a track was 100% gold-plated minimal. My point is that the term minimal can still be validly be used to describe a track without it being seen as a dirty or out of date concept. The new deep house sound can, in my opinion, be described as minimal without any hesitation. It, once again, is a stripped down sound with simple arrangements and melodies at its core. Less of a reliance on the kick drum for its drive but hopefully retaining the adventurousness of the soundtrack of the past few years.

    I can't wait for the report from London. I'm very jealous. Counting down the days until Luciano here.

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